Ep. 61: From emotionally invulnerable to wildly expressed w/ Heather McClellan

In this episode, I’m joined by Heather McClellan, an Executive Coach and EQ trainer for a beautifully heartfelt and powerful conversation about what allows relationships (and the people in them) to thrive. We discuss how to go from being emotionally closed to becoming deeply embodied in our emotions + precise in how we communicate them, so we can experience more closeness with our partners.

In today’s episode, we cover:

  • The key ingredient that allows both work teams and romantic partners to be the most effective teams/couples
  • Why ‘depending’ on your partner is actually healthy (and hyper-independence is not)
  • The ONE question that changed Heather’s life (and how it can change your life too)
  • Heather’s journey from being ‘invulnerable’ and emotionally unexpressed to becoming a master facilitator of emotional intelligence and empathy trainings
  • How we can use the body + movement practices to develop relationship skills like expressing vulnerability, deciphering boundaries, and navigating new/challenging conversations
  • How to determine what you’re a ‘yes,’ ‘no,’ and ‘maybe’ to in your relationships (aka determining your values)
  • Heather’s declaration for the man/partner she’s calling in <3


To learn more about Heather & her work:

HKM Coaching & Consulting


Heather Kumari McClellan does executive coaching and emotional intelligence-related training, facilitation, and conflict mediation for companies ranging from startups to Fortune 100, with clients including Y Combinator startups, Square, Uber, and Siemens. She’s also a speaker on EQ topics.

Heather’s conducted empathy trainings for Fortune 100 executives, and her innovation work with Siemens resulted in endeavors that generated over $200 million for the company. One of her long-term coaching clients is a founder whose private company went from a $40 million to over $1 billion valuation over the course of their coaching. She works with venture funds to clear up leadership team dynamics.

Heather is an expert in running events to facilitate group bonding as well as EQ deepening. In the past decade, she’s trained and mentored over 300 facilitators, and for five years she ran and co-grew a relational skills training group in Austin to the largest in the world, from 10 to over 2,000 members. Her trainings have sparked over two dozen new EQ training communities globally. Her Austin organization is now an official 501(c)(3) non-profit, for which she is on the board of directors. Heather holds an Advanced Coaching Certification, level two of two, from Columbia University.


Resources mentioned in this episode:

  • EMDR: Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) is a psychotherapy treatment that was originally designed to alleviate the distress associated with traumatic memories
  • The Queen’s Code by Alison Armstrong
  • The Keys to the Kingdom by Alison Armstrong
  • The Dance of Anger by Harriet Lerner
  • Odd Girl Out by Laura James


To learn more about Lee Noto & her work:


Aligned Attraction: A modern relationship school for self-aware women who are ready to break old patterns and create soul-level love

 (Learn more + apply to join: https://www.thisisalignedattraction.com)


To learn more about Lee Noto & her work:

Website: https://leenoto.com

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LeeNotoCoach/

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-noto-884959a/

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